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2020 Fantasy Football: The Dreaded 8th Draft Position.
What’s your favorite spot in the draft? You like having the prestigious 1st pick? Or do you prefer to conduct matters from the caboose at 12th? What about snugly right in the middle at 6th and 7th? Maybe just a good enough spot to remain within shouting distance of the turn? We all have preferences of what is the best draft position.
There is no hard consensus on what is the best spot and I’m not the first to write about it. But where you draft in a 12-team league has a definite impact on your strategy. Your style and targeting needs to adjust depending on where you draft.
Many of you might like the 8th position. It may even be your lucky spot where your best triumphs are in the trophy case. From experience and understanding of the snake system, my opinion is that the 8th position is the most difficult and demanding position to draft from.
2020 Fantasy Football: The Dreaded 8th Draft Position.
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Embed from Getty Images Let’s face it. You will have to draft 8th at some point in your life. It’s far from fabulous. However, you can still win if you are drafting in the 8th position just as well as any other in snake redraft.
Why is 8th such an uncomfortable position?
The dreaded 8th draft position is a disadvantage from the start. The best running backs and a top receiver or two disappear before you even get a sniff. You are too far from the 1-2 turn to assemble a plan for your next pick with any surety. As with all the middle positions from 5th through 8th, you can easily find yourself stuck in a locked flow of forced choices.
The worst thing about being 8th is that you are the last of the middle spots to select your first guy off the board. You might say, “well then, the 9th guy is worse off, right?” and you’re partly correct. The 9th position guy does indeed have similar problems to the 8th. However, the 9th position is slightly better (more correctly, “less worse”) because the turn is not so distant.
One can argue that the 8th and 9th pick are virtually indistinguishable in difficulty, but remember that the 9th spot is ahead of the 8th when you are coming around the corner to the 2.04 and 2.05 picks after the first round. The person drafting 9th had pretty much the same pick at the “rest of the best” you did before the turn.
What about 7th? Surely, the 8th has the same advantage over that spot after the turn, right? Yes, 7th is much like the 9th. Obviously the same “before and after” turn dynamics apply. And again, 7th goes into the category of also not being an ideal draft position in most minds. But 7th remains in that area of being “less worse” than the 8th spot.
How can I make the 8th spot work toward a winning draft?
Just because you have the 8th draft position does not automatically mean a low-percentage chance of making your fantasy playoffs. The snake draft structure allows everyone parity. Even though the early rounds look rough, as the draft progresses you’ll find the middle tier studs will be available for you ahead of the early and late turn positions.
If you know your draft position prior to your actual draft, and it’s number eight, you can practice at places like FantasyPros. Mock drafts will help develop a strategy where you can get an idea of what targets you can get and which will likely be reaches.
Reaching in the 8th position.
“Reach” is a fuzzy expression in fantasy. A reach essentially means that a draftable player sits a round or so beyond a consensus rank or ADP. Short to medium reaches usually won’t raise any eyebrows among your competitors, but deeper reaches at a distance toward two rounds will pop the monocles. Among seasoned players, long reaches are a rarity.
Like any draft position, you should try and limit ADP short or medium reaches to only two or three instances during your draft. There are players you want and determined to possess. I get it. But in the 8th position, you really have a harder time making up ground after a reach than the draft spots which hug the turn.
Reaching becomes less and less seen as a brash move the later your draft progresses. Players in the latter rounds become fluid in their ADP interchangeability above a certain tier.
But yes, you can reach. As with any draft position, use your caution doing this. If you feel your selection beats the house, then by all means try it. Fantasy Football is meant to be fun.
Things eventually level off.
As mentioned, by the time you enter the middle rounds everyone is working on balancing their rosters. Beyond the early rounds, the 8th position doesn’t seem so hard.
When building your team in the 8th position, try to give your team a balance so that you can give yourself decisions. The worst trap to get into is not having enough running backs or wide receivers. Or ending up caught with choices of bum quarterbacks.
Often, the 8th position will allow you to procure the top tight end. If you take Travis Kelce in the first round, you remove one awkward fantasy position to fill later in the draft. No doubt a positive. The quarterback is the other one. I would say okay to the top TE and not so much for an early QB in position 1.08 or 2.05 – even 3.08 is asking for a tough road. Most analysts are dead against early quarterback grabs in any case.
In the 8th spot, giving into temptation and grabbing Patrick Mahomes at 2.05 is cutting it very thin. Especially if you took Kelce at 1.08 hoping for what looks like a dream pairing for your team. You might want to reconsider such a major risk. You need those fantasy beasts at wide receiver and running back early to populate your roster.
The Running Back Deficit.
Embed from Getty Images In the 8th spot, you are generally looking at a running back deficit right from the start. The best player to take off the board will likely be Davante Adams or Travis Kelce in the first round. After the turn it is best to grab your RB1 if that happens. Sure, you might get a zero-RB drafter or two ahead of you and in that case the problem solves itself.
This is a major problem for the late-round spots and not just the 8th. Weakness at running back won’t win you many weeks. However, having a hoard of RB2 types isn’t bad either. You’ll always have that early stud WR1 if he fell as best choice in round one. From there, start thinking about building your stash of RBs as soon as possible.
Making up a running back deficit while maintaining a balanced roster during a draft is hard. There is a downside. You can inadvertently create a run on the RB position if your opponents around the bottom turn were thinking the same as you. It makes for a wild draft. But it’s not necessarily your fault if the draft flow becomes chaotic. It might even work to your benefit.
In Conclusion.
The dreaded 8th draft position need not be the sick horse of your draft. Think of it as a challenge. It’s actually one of the pivotal positions (along with the 5th) for guiding the flow of a draft. Any snipes from position 5 or position 8 may reverberate sharply in the draft room as compared with other draft spots. So you have no shortage of ability to add drama compared with the rest.
If you have the 8th spot or any of the less desirable positions, good luck and go get ’em.
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Fantasy Football: The Good and Bad Aspects.
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Fantasy Football: The Good and Bad Aspects.
While many of us play fantasy football, I'm not sure that we really know how far its reign reaches. According to research by the Fantasy Sports Trade Association (did you know that even existed?), 33 million Americans play fantasy football every year and that number is growing by an additional two million every year.
As a major part of millions of people's sports lives, let's take a look at some of the good and bad aspects of fantasy football.
Con: Conflict of Interest.
We’ve all been there, so don’t deny it. It’s a dilemma that every fantasy owner inevitably faces throughout the course of a fantasy season.
One of your fantasy studs is matched up against your team this weekend, and you have to make a choice: the success of your team or the statistical success of your fantasy team?
Your love for your team won’t be able to keep you from smiling when your fantasy wideout catches a long bomb and takes it to the house.
According to LeSean McCoy, this conflict of interest doesn’t just apply to the fantasy guys (via CBSNews).
Pro: Increases Knowledge of the NFL.
Even though I only really started following the NFL five years ago, my knowledge of teams and players is much better than that of the casual fan. I wholeheartedly attribute this to fantasy football.
Playing mildly serious fantasy football means that you have to learn about other teams and players or suffer the sting of losing. For most people, the fear of losing is a good enough motivator to make sure they do their homework.
Con: Fantasy Playoffs in Week 17.
While most fantasy leagues have their playoffs in Weeks 15 and 16, there are some that still have the finals in Week 17—the season is so short that we have to maximize it for our fantasy purposes. This creates problems, however, for players on playoff teams that are resting their superstars for the stretch run.
I know it’s all part of the strategy, but it just seems wrong to make the playoffs on the shoulders of Aaron Rodgers, but lose in the finals because your opponent has Matt Flynn.
Pro: Increases Interest in All Games.
If it wasn’t for fantasy football, I would have zero interest in 80 percent of the Thursday Night Football games. But there is fantasy football, and as a result I tuned in to watch the Dolphins vs. Bills game last week to gauge how much Ryan Tannehill looks Brian Hartline’s way.
Even in tonight's blowout win for the 49ers, I kept watching until the end due to the fantasy implications.
Fantasy football has seriously increased viewership for NFL games (via Los Angeles Times ) by getting more fans to watch games that they wouldn’t have watched before.
Con: We Stop Thinking of Players as Humans.
Football is a very dangerous sport, and it’s a huge risk for players to undertake. I know they get paid a lot of money and understand the consequences of their actions, but as fans we have a tendency to forget that these guys on TV are human beings with families and lives outside of sports, just like us.
Well, their lives outside of sports are a little different to ours, but you get my point.
It gets to the point that we start caring more about an injury’s impact to our fantasy team, than the impact of that injury on the human being concerned. Some players don’t care for that.
Pro: You Form Bonds with Your Players.
Fantasy football gives you a chance to form deep emotional bonds with players on other teams that you normally wouldn’t care about. I’ve definitely developed a man crush on Brandon Marshall this year as a result of the work he does every weekend for my fantasy team.
The players who do well for your team forever hold a soft spot in your heart. Unfortunately, this is a double-edged sword…
Con: It Puts Bad Performances Under a Microscope.
While fantasy football can lead you to develop man crushes, it can also lead to some hate-filled breakups. Great statistical days are remembered by everyone, but bad statistical days are burned into the memories of fantasy owners who suffered from them.
Everybody who drafted Chris Johnson this year hated him for the first few weeks of the season. While his performance was certainly very disappointing, it wouldn’t have been discussed so much if there was no fantasy football.
Pro: The Bliss of Watching the 1 P.M. Games.
Playing fantasy football and watching the 1 p.m. games is a complete sensory overload. You can switch between games on TV and online gametrackers, tracking your players as the games go.
You see all the ridiculous days unfold in real-time, and while it’s totally overwhelming, it’s complete bliss at the same time.
Con: Reduces Productivity.
Even though I am a very busy college student, it would have to take an awful lot to interrupt my football Sundays. I sit back, wear my jersey, soak in the games and monitor my fantasy team.
According to recent studies, I’m not the only one who suffers productivity losses from fantasy football. A recent report estimated that if the 22.3 million workers who moonlight as fantasy GMs spend one hour a week managing their fantasy teams, the cost to employers is a staggering $6.5 billion in terms of wages paid to unproductive workers.
Pro: The Joy of Making the Right Decisions.
As sports fans, we all have opinions. That’s what is great about sports—you can find so many different opinions about any rumor, trade, player or coach.
When you go with your gut, make a tough decision and it pays off, you feel like the smartest sports mind out there. Any owner who started Matt Schaub this week is feeling pretty good about him or herself.
Regrettably, these plans don’t always come to fruition.
CON: The Pain of Making the Wrong Decisions.
There are two types of fantasy mistakes you can make: you can start a player who drops a stinker, or you can bench a player who breaks out. My worst mistake this season was keeping Doug Martin on my bench for back-to-back weeks.
Which weeks? The two weeks where he scored 33.5 and 53 points, respectively because, of course, that’s how it worked out.
Missing out on a ridiculous day is gut-wrenching—especially if you lose because of it.
PRO: The Draft.
A live fantasy football draft is one of the most fun and interactive sports experiences. We get to live out our dreams and play the role of GM, building a team from scratch. You have to do your scouting, and you have to plan your picks.
Then there are the mock drafts to get an idea of player values and average draft position. You develop your list of sleepers and players you want to stay away from. Throw in the suspense of finding out what pick you get.
To top it all off, you have to react on the fly to how the other managers draft. The draft is the best thing about fantasy football.
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